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Gap Theory Day Age Firmament Pre flood Oxygen Hyperbaric Giant men CREATION SCIENCE EVANGELISM Lección Parte 2a: El huerto del Edén Sesión 3 of 14. Un seminario Creacionista Dr. Kent Hovind c/o 29 Cummings Road Pensacola, Florida [32503] 850-479-3466 www.drdino.com E-mail: [email protected] Kent & Jo July 14, 1973 Pensacola, Florida E.E.U.U. Eric and Tanya Hovind Kent Andrew and Danielle Hovind Paul and Marlissa Jewell Grandkids are God’s reward for not killing your own kids when you thought about it! Los nietos son el galardón de Dios para no matar sus propios hijos cuando quisiera. Angelina 2 months Stephanie 22 months 7-19-04 Kailey 18 months La familia Hovind Junio de 2004 Porque por él [Jesús] fueron creadas todas las cosas que hay in los cielos, y que hay en la tierra...todo fue creado por él, y para él. Colosenses 1:16 For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth…all things were created by him, and for him: Colossians 1:16 Y él respondiendo, les dijo: ¿No habéis leído que el que los hizo al principio, macho y hembra los hizo...? Mateo 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matthew 19:4 Pero desde el principio de la creación, macho y hembra los hizo Dios. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. Marcos 10:6 Por tanto, así como el pecado entró en el mundo por un hombre, y por el pecado la muerte y la muerte así pasó a todos los hombres por cuanto todos pecaron. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romanos 5:12 Porque por cuanto la muerte vino por un hombre, también por un hombre vino la resurrección de los muertos. Porque a la manera que en Adam todos mueren, así también todos en Cristo serán vivificados. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Corintios 15:21-22 Y así está escrito: fue hecho el primer hombre Adam en alma viviente; el postrer Adam fue hecho en espíritu vivificante. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1 Corintios 15:45 Y vivió Adam ciento y treinta años (130), y engendró un hijo...y llamó su nombre Seth. And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: Génesis 5:3 Y vivió Seth ciento y cinco años (105), y engendró a Enós And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: Génesis 5:6 Y vivió Enós noventa años y engendró á Cainán. And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: Génesis 5:9 130+105+90+70+65+162+….=4000 B.C. Last page of seminar notebook, available from CSE $8.50., 850-479-3466, Also available laminated $5. Last page of seminar notebook, available from CSE $8.50, 850-4793466, Also available laminated $5 or 6/$20. What was it like before the flood? How can a man live to be over 900 years old? ¿Cómo era antes del diluvio? Y ¿cómo pudieron vivir los hombres hasta 900 años? Antes del diluvio vivieron un promedio de 912 años. Hoy la gente sólo vive hasta 70-80. Antediluvian life span chart Average age before the flood was 912 years. Today, 70-80 Chart is in seminar notebook or laminated for $5 Millones de años atras ... los dinosaurios moraban en la tierra. ¿Vivieron milliones de años atras los dinosaurios? Did dinosaurs live millions of years ago? ¿Ha visto la gente a los dinosaurios vivos? Have people seen living dinosaurs? What was the original creation like? What did they eat before the flood? What will it be like in the 1000 year reign of Christ? ¿Cómo era la creación original? ¿Qué comieron antes del diluvio? ¿Cómo estará el reino de Cristo en el milenio? Where did all the water come from to flood the entire world? Where did it go? Were there really giant people over ten feet tall on earth? ¿Dónde vino todo el agua del diluvio para destruir el mundo entero? ¿Dónde se fue el agua? ¿Fueron de verdad gigantes mas que diez pies de altura en la tierra? Había gigantes en la tierra en aquellos días, There were giants in the earth in those days; Gén. 6:4 Sabiendo primero esto, que en los postrimeros días vendrán burladores, andando según sus propias concupiscencias, Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, II Pedro 3:3 Y diciendo: ¿Dónde está la promesa del advenimiento de él? Porque desde el día en que los padres se durmieron, todas las cosas perseveran así como desde el principio de la creación. And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. II Pedro 3:4 Porque ellos ignoran esto voluntariamente, que por la palabra de Dios, los cielos fueron en el tiempo antiguo, y la tierra que por agua y en agua subsiste: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: II Pedro 3:5 Po lo cual el mundo que entonces pereció anegado por agua. Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: II Pedro 3:6 Empero los cielos que son ahora, y la tierra, son conservados por la misma palabra, guardados para el fuego en el día del juicio, y de la perdición de los hombres impíos. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. II Pedro 3:7 The scoffers are willingly ignorant of: 1. The creation (La creación) 2. The flood (El diluvio) 3. The coming judgement (El Juicio) H En el principio creó Dios los cielos y la tierra. Y llamó Dios a la luz Día, y a las tinieblas llamó Noche: y fue la tarde y la mañana un [el primer] día. In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. …v.5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Génesis 1:1 y 5 Versions Compared NIV, NASB, et al KJV (Rey Jaime) In whom we have redemption. Col. 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood. Col. 1:14 faith Romans 3:25 Through faith in his blood. Romans 3:25 Innocent Blood Mt. 27:4 The innocent Blood Mt. 27:4 Freed us from our sins Rev. 1:5 Washed us from our sins Rev. 1:5 Cup which is poured Lk. 22:20 Blood which is shed Lk. 22:20 For more call 1-800-435-4535 and get the video Transparent Translations or www.avpublications.com Many new versions have taken out dozens of verses, like Acts 4:24, 8:37, I Jn. 5:7, Rev. 1:11. “Satan cometh immediately and taketh away the word…” Mark 4:15 Be sure to read The Answers Book by Sam Gipp from CSE. Write for the tract, The Eye Opener to get a list. PO Box 7944, Eugene, OR 97401, or www.avpublications.com More about Bible versions on video #7 “God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. And God called the firmament heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.” Genesis 1:5, 8 RSV (Inglés) La Teoría “Gap” En el principio, creó Dios los cielos y la tierra. Y la tierra estaba desordenada y vacía, y las tenieblas estaban sobre la haz del abismo, H “Between the first two verses of Genesis there is ample scope for all the geologic eras.” “Entre los primeros dos versículos de Génesis, hay suficiente tiempo para los siglos geológicos.” -Explore the Book, By J. Sidlow Baxter p. 35 “…pre-Adamite rebellion and judgment of Lucifer and associated angel-beings…” -Explore the Book, by J. Sidlow Baxter Y la tierra estaba sin forma y vacía, y las tinieblas estaban sobre la faz del abismo. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. (Heb. Tohu waw bohu= unformed and unfilled. It does not mean destroyed) Génesis 1:2 A great book on the “Gap Theory”. Available from CSE for $8 850-479-3466 222 pages Be sure to get our video debate series with Dr. Hugh Ross for lots more! Our new booklet exposing the many problems with the “Gap Theory” CSE- $2 h This house is unformed and unfilled but not destroyed. Esta casa está sin forma y vacía, pero no destruida. Miré la tierra, y he aquí que estaba asolada y vacía; y los cielos, no había en ellos luz. I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light. Jeramías 4:23 Miré los montes, y he aquí que temblaban, y todos los callados fueron destruídos. Miré, y no parecía hombre, y todas las aves del cielo se habían ido. I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and the hills moved lightly. I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. Jeremías 4:24-25 This house is also unformed and unfilled but destroyed. Esta casa también está vacía y sin forma, pero destruida. Porque en seis días hizo Jehová los cielos y la tierra, la mar y todas las cosas que en ellos hay... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is… The question is not, “What does it say?” La pregunta no es: ¿Qué dice? The question is, “Do you believe what it says?” La pregunta es: ¿Crees lo que la Biblia dice? Exodo 20:11 Y reposó en el séptimo día: por tanto Jehová bendijo el día del reposo y lo santificó. and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodo 20:11 Señal es para siempre entre mí y los hijos de Israel; porque en seis días hizo Jehová los cielos y la tierra, y en el séptimo día cesó, y reposó. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, Exodo 31:17 Y acabó Dios en el día séptimo su obra que hizo, y reposó el día séptimo de toda su obra que había hecho. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Génesis 2:2 Y bendijo Dios al día séptimo, y santificólo, porque en él reposó de toda su obra que había Dios creado y hecho. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Génesis 2:3 Porque en cierto lugar dijo así del séptimo día: Y reposó Dios de todas sus obras en el séptimo día. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did did rest the seventh day from all his works. Hebreos 4:4 Por tanto, así como el pecado entró en el mundo por un hombre, y por el pecado la muerte y la muerte así pasó a todos los hombres por cuanto todos pecaron. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romanos 5:12 Mas reinó la muerte desde Adam hasta Moisés, Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, Romanos 5:14 Porque por cuanto la muerte vino por un hombre, también por un hombre vino la resurrección de los muertos. Porque a la manera que en Adam todos mueren, así también todos en Cristo serán vivificados. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. I Corintios 15:21-22 Y el postrer enemigo que será destruido, es la muerte. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. (Didn’t plants die? Are plants alive? See video #6) (¿Murieron las plantas? ¿Están vivas las plantas? Vea video #6) I Corintios 15:26 Y los bendijo Dios; y díjoles Dios: Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid la tierra, y sojuzgadla, And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: Génesis 1:28 “...Fructificad y multiplicad, y henchid ( ) la tierra...” “…Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish ( ) the earth…” Genesis 1:28 (male) means fill – significa “Llenar” (Shoov) means do it again quiere decir “Hacerlo de nuevo” Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou [Lucifer] hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. Ezekiel 28:12-15 Así ha dicho el Señor Jehová: Tú echas el sello a la proporción, lleno de sabiduría, y acabado de hermosura. En Edén, en el huerto de Dios estuviste [Lucifer]: toda piedra preciosa fue tu vestidura; el sardio, topacio, diamante, crisólito, onique, y berilo, el zafiro, carbunclo, y esmeralda, y oro, los primores de tus tamboriles y pífanos estuvieron apercibidos para ti en el día de tu creación. Tu querubín grande, cubridor: y yo te puse; en el santo monte de Dios estuviste; en medio de piedras de fuego has andado. Perfecto eras en todos tus caminos desde el día que fuiste creado, hasta que se halló en ti maldad. Ezequiel 28:12-15 Y había Jehová Dios plantado un huerto en Edén al oriente, y puso allí al hombre que había formado. And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Génesis 2:8 Sexto Día ¿Dónde estabas cuando yo fundaba la tierra? Házmelo saber, si tienes inteligencia ... Cuando las estrellas todas del alba alababan, y se regocijaban todos los hijos de Dios (ángeles) ? Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? … and all the sons of God (angels) shouted for joy? Job 38:4 y 7 9 Y dijo Dios: Júntense las aguas que están debajo de los cielos en un lugar y descúbrase la seca: y fue así. 10 Y llamó Dios a la seca Tierra, y a la reunión de las aguas llamó Mares: 13 Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día tercero. 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. Génesis 1:9-13 Y vió Dios todo lo que había hecho, y he aquí que era bueno en gran manera. Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día sexto. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Génesis 1:31 ¿No son “crear” y “hacer” palabras diferentes con significaciones diferentes? Aren’t ‘created’ and ‘made’ different words with different meanings? Y dijo Dios: Hagamos al hombre a nuestra imagen, conforme a nuestra semejanza; Y creó Dios al hombre a su imagen, a imagen de Dios lo creó; varón y hembra los creó. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. More on video #7 about this! ¡Más en video #7 acerca de esto! Génesis 1:26-27 Los que siguen la teoría de “Gap” enseñan que la primera tierra fue destruida y Dios tenía que rehacer la tierra. Gap theory proponents teach the first earth was destroyed and God had to re-make the earth. Y vi un cielo nuevo, y una tierra nueva; porque el primer cielo, y la primera tierra se fueron, y la mar ya no era. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelación ó Apócalipsis 21:1 Mas, ¿a cuál de los ángeles dijo él jamás: Siéntate a mi diestra, hasta que ponga a tus enemigos por estrado de tus pies? ¿No son todos espíritus ministradores, enviados para ministrar por aquellos, que serán herederos de salvación? But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Hebreos 1:13-14 ¿Cuándo cayó Satanás? 1. Todo fue creado en seis días Ex. 20:11 2. Satanás fue creado. Ez. 28:13, 14 3. Satanás estuvo en Eden hasta que él pecó. Ezeq. 28:14 4. Eden fue hecho en el sexto día. Gen. 2:8 5. Porque los ángeles son “espíritus ministradores” por nosotros (Heb. 1:14 and Mt. 18:10) ¿por qué los crearía Dios millones de años antes de los hombres? When did Satan fall? 1. Everything was created in six days. Ex. 20:11 2. Satan was created. Ez. 28:13, 14 3. Satan was in Eden until he sinned. Ez. 28:14 4. Eden was made on day 6. Gen. 2:8 5. Since Angels were created to be “ministering spirits” for us (Heb. 1:14 and Mt. 18:10) why would God create them millions of years before man? 6. Satanas estuvo allí cuando Dios fundó la tierra. Job 38:1-4 7. Dios fundó la tierra en el tercer día. Gen. 1:9 8. Todo era “bueno” al fin del sexto día. Gen. 1:31 9. Adam tenía 130 años cuando nació Set. Gen. 5:3 10. ¿Nacieron Caín y Abel antes de Set? 6. Satan rejoiced when the foundations of the earth were laid. Job 38:1-4 7. The foundations were laid on day 3. Gen. 1:9 8. Everything was “very good” at the end of day 6. Gen. 1:31 9. Adam was 130 when Seth was born. Gen. 5:3 10. Cain & Able born? Before Seth. Y vivió Adam ciento y treinta años, y engendró un hijo...y llamó su nombre Seth. And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: Génesis 5:3 Fue “bueno” hasta que el hombre pecó (hasta 100 años despues de la creación) It was “very good” until man sinned (up to 100 years after creation) and God cursed the world. 1. Invented 1814 by a Scottish theologian (and Masonic Lodge member) named Thomas Chalmers - not historical position of church. 2. Violates scriptures Gen. 1:5; 2:2-3, Ex. 20:11; Heb. 4:4. Problems with the “Gap Theory” 3. Puts death before Adam’s sin- violates Rom. 5:12, I Cor. 15:21 4. Has Satan fall before day 7- violates Gen. 1:31; 2:8; Ezek. 28:12-15 Questions to ask “Gap Theory” believers: 1. Was there death before Adam’s sin? Rom. 5:12, I Cor. 15:21 2. When did Satan fall? Gen. 1:31; 2:8; Ezek. 28:12-15 3. Was Satan already the “god of this world” (II Cor. 4:5) when God gave Adam dominion (Gen. 1:26-28) over the earth? 4. Thousands of species of living animals are also found as fossils. Did God recreate these? 5. When God said everything was “very good” was Satan evil and were Adam and Eve standing on thousands of dead plants and animals? 6. Wouldn’t Noah’s flood have erased all evidence of the “billions of years” taught in the gap theory? 7. What did God mean in Ex. 20:11 and 31:17? 8. Does everyone who reads the Bible need some “guru” to tell them what the Bible says? 9. Why can the word “let” (Romans 1:13) change meanings in 400 years but the word “replenish” cannot? 10. Why do you need a gap? What took place during this time? 11. Why does Revelation 21:1 state that the earth we live on now is the “first” earth if it really is not? 12. Was Adam “the first man” as I Corinthians 15:45 says? Arguments for Gap Theory Replenish means “fill again” Henchid significa “llenarlo de nuevo” Tiene que añadir a la palabra de Dios Debíl Weak X X El sexto día sólo aplica a la tierra de hoy. Lucifer’s flood took place during gap. X El diluvio de Lucero pasó durante el “Gap”. Gén. 1 tiene “y” entre cada versículo. Esto significa un período de tiempo. Modern Science has proven the earth is old. La ciencia moderna ha probado que la tierra es vieja. Wrong Not true in 1611 Ex. 20:11 “six day…” only means current earth. Gen. 1 has “and” between every verse. This involves a break in time. Involves Eqivocado adding to God’s Word X X “Let the earth burst forth with every sort of grass and seed bearing plant, and the fruit trees… all this occurred on the third day*” *literally: “a period of time” Genesis 1:13,16 Living Bible *literalmente: “un período de tiempo” según la perversión de “Living Bible” (Biblia Viviente) en Inglés. Porque mil años delante de tus ojos, Son como el día de ayer, que pasó. For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, Salmos 90:4 “que un día delante del Señor es como mil años, y mil años como un día.” “that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day” II Pedro 3:8 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, … and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the third day. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, ... and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Génesis:1:11-19 Y dijo Dios: Produzca la tierra hierba verde, hierba que dé simiente árbol de fruto que dé fruto según su género...y vió Dios que era bueno. Y fue la tarde y la mañana el día tercero. E hizo Dios las dos grandes lumbreras: la lumbrera mayor para que señorease en el día...y la tarde y la mañana [fue] el día cuarto. Génesis:1:11-19 Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. … 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. Genesis 1:13 plants made on the third day. Genesis 1:16 sun made on the fourth day. El sol hecho en el cuarto día Las plantas hechas en el tercer día Genesis 1:20 birds and insects to pollinate plants made on the fifth day. Los insectos y aves hechos en el quinto día “Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew of Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the idea that creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience…” James Barr, Professor of Hebrew at Vanderbilt University and former Regis Professor of Hebrew at Oxford university. Letter to David Watson cited in That Their Words May be Used Against Them, Henry Morris, 1997, p. 375. Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the “days” of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological,and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by such professors, as far as I know.” James Barr, Professor of Hebrew at Vanderbilt University and former Regis Professor of Hebrew at Oxford university. Letter to David Watson cited in That Their Words May Be Used Against Them, Henry Morris, 1997, p. 375. There are no verses in the Bible where “yom” means anything other than a normal 24 hour day if it is modified with a number like “the second day.” A great book on the “Gap Theory”. Available from CSE for $8 850-479-3466 222 pages Be sure to get our video debate series with Dr. Hugh Ross for lots more! Our new booklet exposes many of the problems with the “Gap Theory” CSE- $2 h A great book about the false teachings of Hugh Ross. Available from CSE- $7. Y dijo Dios: Haya expansión en medio de las aguas, y separe las aguas de las aguas. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Génesis 1:6 La tierra separa las aguas. The dirt keeps the oceans away from each other. Water Water Dirt Y dijo Dios: Produzcan las aguas reptil de ánima viviente, y aves que vuelen sobre la tierra, en la abierta expansión de los cielos. And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl (birds) that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. Génesis 1:20 Y dijo Dios: Sean lumbreras en la expansión de los cielos para apartar el dia y la noche: ... E hizo Dios las dos grandes lumbreras ... hizo también las estrellas. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night: …And God made two great lights… the stars also. Génesis 1:14 y 16 Yo conozco a un hombre en Cristo, que hace catorce años (si en el cuerpo, no lo sé, si fuera del cuerpo, no lo sé: Dios lo sabe.) fue arrebatado hasta el tercer cielo. I knew a man in Christ above 14 years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such a one caught up to the third heaven. II Corintios 12:2 Los cielos cuentan la gloria de Dios, y la expansión denuncia la obra de sus manos. The heavens declare the glory of God; the firmament sheweth His handiwork. Salmos 19:1 E hizo Dios la expansión, y apartó las aguas que estaban debajo de la expansión, de las aguas que estaban sobre la expansión: y fue así. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Génesis 1:7 Alabadle, cielos de los cielos, Y las aguas que están sobre los cielos. Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. Salmos 148:4 Porque ellos ignoran esto voluntariamente, que por la palabra de Dios, los cielos fueron en el tiempo antiguo, y la tierra que por fuera del agua y en el agua subsiste: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: II Pedro 3:5 El está asentado sobre el globo de la tierra, cuyos moradores son como langostas: él extiende los cielos como una cortina, tiéndelos como una tienda para morar: It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaías 40:22 La atmósfera de la tierra tiene 6 niveles hoy. The earth’s atmosphere has 6 layers today. Rayos X Luz visible X-Ray and UV Radiation Visible Light (blocked) Radio Waves Ondas Radiales Some think it was a layer of ice suspended by the magnetic field- the Mysner effect. “After this, on the second day, he placed the heaven over the whole world, and separated it from the other parts; and determined it should stand by itself. He also placed a crystalline [firmament] round it,” Josephus Book 1, chapter 1 Canopy of water overhead and water under the crust of the earth. Picture courtesy Dr. Carl Baugh De Jehová es la tierra y su plenitud; El mundo, y los que en él habitan. Porque él la fundó sobre los mares, y afirmó sobre los ríos. The earth is the LORD’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. Salmos 24:1,2 Al que tendió la tierra sobre las aguas, To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: Salmos 136:6 La creación original era bien diferente de lo que vemos hoy en día. The original creation was very different than what we see today. Picture courtesy Dr. Carl Baugh 254-897-3200 El año seiscientos de la vida de Noé...aquel día fueron rotas todas las fuentes del grande abismo, y las cataratas de los cielos fueron abiertas; Y hubo llubia sobre la tierra cuarenta días y cuarenta noches. In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, …the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. (more in seminar 6 on the flood) (más en lección 6 acerca del diluvio) Génesis 7:11-12 Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 224 San Andreas Fault California, USA E.E.U.U. Scott, Foresman Earth Science, 1990 p. 190 Merrill Earth Science 1993 p. 343 LA TEORIA DE PANGAEA What they don’t tell you: Lo que no quieren decirte: 1. Africa has been shrunk 35-40% to make them fit. 1. Africa fue diminuido 35-40% para que quepa. 2. Mexico and Central America are gone. 2. México y América Central no existen. ¿Dónde esta?: Mexico? Panama? Costa Rica? Guatemala? Honduras? Belize? Nicaragua? McGraw Hill Earth Science, 1973, p. 228 If you take the water out of the oceans, you will notice there is dirt underneath. Si se quita todo el agua de los oceanos, se puede ver tierra abajo. La Tierra debajo de los oceanos The continents are still connected! It is true that the plates are moving. That does not prove they have been moving for millions of years. The flood probably really messed up the real estate! The Pangea theory is covered on video 6. Prentice Hall Earth Science 1989 p. 271 More about “pangaea” on seminar part 6 Más acerca de “pangaea” en lección 6 Radiación Solar Water vapor surrounds planets, scientists discover By Tim Radford The Guardian LONDON- European scientists using an ultra-cold orbiting telescope have discovered unimaginable volumes of water in the space between the stars. … The scientists were astounded to find water vapor in the freezing atmospheres of Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Saturn… and Titan. Dayton Daily News April 8, 1998 p. 12A Available from CSE Falta de oxigéno mató a los dinosaurios. International Falls, Minnesota News 1993 International Falls, Minnesota News 1993 An 80-foot-long (24m) apatosaurus, also known as a brontosaurus, had a set of nostrils about the same size as a horse’s... Un apatosaurio, también conocido como brontosaurio, de 80 pies de largo (24 m), tenía los agujeros de la naríz del tamaño de los de un caballo. Strange Stories, Amazing Facts Readers Digest 1978 p. 335 Un insecto atrapado en una piedra ámbar. Insect trapped in amber (petrified tree sap) Air bubbles in amber Burbujas de aire en ámbar. “50% more oxygen than it does now.” Time Magazine, Nov 9, 1987, p. 82 Some research shows it had 35% oxygen. See New Scientist March 11, 2000 “The only trend in the recent literature is the suggestion of far more oxygen in the early atmosphere than anyone imagined.” Thaxton (Ph.D. Chemistry), Bradley (Ph.D. Materials Science), Olsen (Ph.D. Geochemistry), The Mystery of Life’s Origin, 1992, p. 80. Bajo presión atmosférica doble la plasma sanguinia se convierte en oxígeno saturado. Under double atmospheric pressure blood plasma will become oxygen saturated. Baby Jessica McClure after being in an 8” well for 58½ hours in Texas (1987) Jessica’s back yard during rescue. Baby Jessica McClure had lost circulation to some parts of her body for 58½ hours. Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber Cámara Hiperbárica de Oxígeno Baby Jessica’s leg and foot were saved because of a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Jessica at the White House a year later. Pensacola, FL (850)-969-7990 8550 University Pkwy, Pensacola, FL WEST GERMANY- all stroke patients are sent promptly for 3 weeks of intensive Hyperbaric Oxygen treatments, paid for by insurance companies. ENGLAND- over 6000 Multiple Sclerosis patients are now being treated with Hyperbaric Oxygen. FRANCE- very rewarding results are being demonstrated in the treatment of arthritis and vascular necrosis, cirrhosis and advanced liver disease,… plastic and cosmetic patients… JAPAN- over 200 chambers, … very promising work in treatment of sudden deafness and blindness. SWEDEN- diabetic gangrene and burger’s disease. BELGIUM- re-implants of total extremities. INDIA- leprosy [email protected] or www.hyperbaric.com www.hochealth.com- they have a chamber in Vancouver, BC- $50/hr, 877-520-6867 Lance Brubaker- 770-560-2676 sells hyperbaric for in home El Paso Times Aug. 21, 2000 “Patients who got extra oxygen were half as likely to be nauseated after surgery.” Lyons Daily News (KS) Jan. 20, 2000 Hudson Valley Hyperbarics in Southeast NY treats autism and neurological disorders and gets “remarkable results.” 2002 see also: www.creationevidence.org A one person chamber Professional Teams That Use Hyperbaric Chambers: NFL: Dallas Cowboys San Francisco 49’ers New York Jets NBA: Seattle Supersonics New York Knicks Vancouver Grizzlies CFL: BC Lions NHL: Vancouver Canucks Philadelphia Flyers San Jose Sharks Phoenix Coyotes Detroit Red Wings St Louis Blues New York Rangers Healing time is nearly twice as fast! “I have never felt better or more rejuvenated than I did stepping out of this chamber for the first time.” www.portalmarket.com/ hyperoxy An “oxygen bar” in a mall in Alaska. Un bar de oxígeno en un Mall en Alaska. Kent Hovind in a hyperbaric chamber in Hood River, OR 6-02. Call Ron Lowell 541-387-5441 for details. Dr. Kei Mori at Kao University in Tokyo raised tomato plants under a plastic greenhouse that filtered out UV light. I was told he pressurized CO2 to the stems of the plants. One 16 foot (4.9m) tall plant produced 907 tomatoes! Dr. Mori died in 1993, but his work continues today. I have been told the plants can still be purchased in the towns of Ohtama and Aki, Japan. Dave Woetzel has lots of info on this plant. 603-2247757 ex. 3327, Also see Himawari-net.co.jp, LaForet Engineering, 1985 expo. Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, 800-360-2732 ¡Una planta de 16 pies que produjo 907 tomates! 1985 “Expo attraction. Plant that may bear 10,000 tomatoes grows under lenses that filter out sun’s harmful rays.” www.himawari-net.co.jp Tomato plant Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, 800-360-2732, www.sonicbloom.com Five squash per leaf instead of one. Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, 800-360-2732, www.sonicbloom.com Sonic Bloom article in Creation Illustrated Summer 2000, p. 24, Get a back issue from CSE, www.sonicbloom.com National Center for Science Education Defending the Teaching of Evolution in the Public Schools Welcome! to the homepage of the National Center for Science Education, Inc. -NCSE -- a nonprofit, tax-exempt membership organization working to defend the teaching of evolution against sectarian attack. We are a nationally-recognized clearinghouse for information and advice to keep evolution in the science classroom and “scientific creationism” out. “...para guardar la evolución en la clase de ciencia, y la “ciencia de creacionismo” afuera.” In a radio debate Dr. Eugenia Scott said, “Dr. Hovind, There are 80 separate layers of coal in the Midwest. (She’s right) If you take a look at the amount of coal …in the world, “the entire biomass (plants) of the world today could not possibly be converted to that much fossil fuel. (She’s right again!) There had to have been an enormous amount of time involved in the laying down of the coal seams.” (She’s wrong!) Dr. Eugenia Scott, executive director of the National Center for Science Education, founded to keep creationism out of schools, in a radio debate with me on 11-8-93 (WBT Charlotte, NC) Strip mines have coal seams up to 200 feet thick! Eagle Butte mine in WY. 10,000 square mile coal reserve in Powder River basin. Earth Magazine May, 1993. Silver Burdett & Ginn 1987 p. 231 Mr. Newton Anderson found this bell inside a lump of coal in 1944 in West Virginia. He still has the bell. (304)-842-5556. [email protected] See: Ammunition by Norm Scharbough Communique Conservative Publishers PO Box 215, Brownsburg, IN 46112 1991 (317)-852-0877 photo 10-22-99 Cast Iron pot found in coal in 1912 at the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, OK. Now in Creation Evidence Museum, www.creationevidence.org A Shoe Sole From Nevada Oct. 8, 1922 American Weekly section of New York Sunday American by Dr. W. H. Ballou. The stitching pattern was clearly visible including the twist of the thread. The rock was “213-248 million years old”. The Hidden History of the Human Race Michael A. Cremo p.113-115 ph. 209-337-2200 See Seminar part 6 for more on artifacts found in coal. Y dijo Dios: He aquí que os he dado toda hierba que da simiente, que está sobre la haz de toda la tierra; y todo árbol en que hay fruto de árbol que da simiente, seros ha para comer. And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Génesis 1:29 “The discovery of thousands of well-preserved leaves in Antarctica has sparked a debate among geologists over whether the polar region, rather than being blanketed by a massive sheet of ice for millions of years enjoyed a near-temperate climate as recently as three million years ago.” Raymond, Chris, “Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs in Antarctica's Interior,” Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11. “In January, Mr. Webb-with David Harwood, an assistant professor of geology at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln, and Barrie McKelvey, a professor of geology at the University of New England in Australia-found the deposit of leaves on the side of a cliff in a desolate stretch of the Transantarctic Mountains, about 250 miles from the South Pole.” Raymond, Chris, “Scientists Report Finding Fossils of Dinosaurs in Antarctica's Interior,” Chronicle of Higher Education (March 20, 1991), p. A11. 70% de la tierra está debajo de las aguas. Lo demás es desierto, hielo, tierra inútil y montañas sin árboles. Sólo 3% es habitable para los humanos. The earth today is 70% under water. Much of the rest is desert, ice caps, tundra and treeless mountain ranges. Only 3% is habitable for man. Él es Dios, el que formó la tierra ... Para que fuese habitada la creó. God himself that formed the earth… He formed it to be inhabited. Isaías 45:18 The pre-flood world was probably loaded with bigger trees and animals from pole to pole. More on that in video #6. La tierra antes del diluvio tenía probablamente más animales y árboles en el mundo. Mas de esto en el video # 6. A water layer would block out harmful rays from the sun. The sun produces: light, ultraviolet light, X rays, Gamma rays, etc. *** X-ray X-rays go through your body like bullets from a machine gun. Los Rayos X atraviesan su cuerpo como balas de una ametralladora. The x-rays expose what is in your body in reverse image. This is why many radiologists have a negative outlook on life! ¡Esto es el porque los radiólogos ven todo de manera negativa! The sun x-rays us every day of our lives (except on cloudy days). Your skin feels the full force of the sun’s x-rays. Holt Biology 2004, p. 861 Tú me has arrugado, And thou hast filled me with wrinkles, Job 16:8 Plomo o concreto Lead or concrete El ombligo Belly Button Average age before the flood was 912 years. Today, 70-80 Chart is in seminar notebook or laminated for $5 Y vivió Henoch sesenta y cinco años, y engendró a Mathusalam. And Enoch lived sixty and five years and begat Methuselah: Génesis 5:21 Add zoom in on two guys 65 yrs old when son was born 65 divided by 12 = 5 ½ years old when they became fathers? Robert Wadlow Alton, Illinois 8’ 11¼” (2.74m) Died 1940 Robert Wadlow with his father (R) and brother (L). Size 37 shoe next to Dr. Hovind’s #11! Un codo 18-21 pulgadas CUBIT 18-21 inches Salió entonces un varón del campo de los Filisteos que se puso entre los dos campos, el cual se llamaba Goliath, de Gath, y tenía de altura seis codos y un palmo. And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. 1 Samuel 17:4 9 Feet 9 Pie de altura Goliath Brother Robert Father Robert Wadlow Pastor Rodney Annis First Baptist Church of Foster 4737 Fosterburg Road Bethalto Ill 62010 618-259-2550 618-2594480 9/12/93 or Chamber of Commerce for info on Robert 618Done 8-25-97 Un hombre de 11 pies y 6 pulgadas de altura Drawing of 11’6’’ man from Italian coal mine. Dinosaur, by Carl Baugh, (254) 897-3200 How to tell the difference between a male and female skeleton; It is not by the number of ribs! Only one bone in the human body will grow back if it is removed- the lower rib! Creation ex nihilo Sept, 1999, p. 46 How to tell the difference between a male and female skeleton; If the feet are pointed toward the mall-it’s a woman! The TMJ of the woman is worn out more than on the man. Because she must tell him everything twice since he does not listen the first time! World’s tallest living man is 8’ 4” Lives in Ukraine and is still growing! El hombre mas alto en el mundo hoy Roman Emperor Maximinus was 8’6” tall! Chronicle of the Roman Emperors © 1995, p.160 El Emperador Maximino tenía mas que 8 pies de altura A skeleton nine feet eight inches (2.95m) tall was recovered from a stone burial mound at Brewersville, Indiana in 1879. Indianapolis News, November 10, 1975, quoted in Reader’s Digest’s Mysteries of the Unexplained Also call Renee and Peter Schissel @ 9985 W. 208th St. Lakeville MN 55044 612-469-4060 “July 24, 2000 I interviewed Charles Hankley of Temecula, CA 909-6991781. In the early 1970’s he was vacationing in Virginia City, NV. He went to a small private museum where he saw 2 skeletons about 9 feet tall in a glass covered pit. The owner had found them in a cave nearby. About 10 years later he stopped in to see the skeletons but the owner told him someone from the government had taken them and would not return them.” -Kent Hovind “Buried beneath heavy layers of shell some 30 miles below the city (Shreveport?, LA), Mr. J. M. Clay found unmistakable evidence of a prehistoric race. Huge bones similar in every respect to a man’s were found imbedded in thick layers of clam shells. As many as a score (20) of skeletons were found intact. Every skeleton was fully nine feet high.” The Daily Town Talk Dec. 9, 1902 The Coushatta Citizen, Thursday Dec. 12, 2002 p. 4A NW Louisiana A skeleton nearly ten feet long was found in the Humbolt Lake (NV) bed in June, 1931. Lovelock Review-Miner’s June 19, 1931 “Un esqueleto de casi 10 pies fue hallado en el lago de Humbolt (estado de Nevada, E.E.U.U.) en Junio de 1931.” Legends from Guam tell of giant ancestors that built the “Latte” stones found there. Ancient Infrastructure, Remarkable Roads, Mines, Walls, Mounds, Stone Circles By William Corliss © 1999, p. 293 * “At Walkerton, 20 miles southwest of South Bend [IN], a group of amateur archeologists opened a mound in 1925 and unearthed the skeletons of eight giants ranging from eight to nine feet long. All were wearing heavy copper armor… Through the bungling of these diggers and the total disinterest of the archaeological museum establishment, these discoveries have now been scattered and lost.” Weird America by Jim Brandon p. 84 see: www.ior.com/~kjc/pages/strange.htm A skeleton 12 feet tall was found by soldiers in Lompoc Rancho, California in 1883. The remains were reburied due to objections by local Indian. The Unexplained by Dr. Karl Shuker p.151 or more on giant human remains, contact Todd Jurasek 918-481-1710 7311 S. Utia Apt 802, Tulsa, OK 74136 “Un esqueleto de 12 pies de altura fue hallado por soldados en Lompoc Rancho (estado de California, E.E.U.U.) en 1883” A skeleton 12 feet tall was reported in many papers near Tucson, AZ in 1891. The man had 6 toes, long hair and a bird-shaped headdress. Weird America by Jim Brandon p. 2 See also Lost Cities of North and Central America by David Hatcher Childress p. 315, 351, 390, 468, 496 (815)253-9000 see also: www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/1345/giants.html earth-house.com/mystery_travel/ooparts/ooparts.html “Our friends told us how and whence they came into this country, and how they had settled themselves there; how it came that, notwithstanding their vicinity to the Mexicans [Aztecs], they resembled each other so little, and lived in perpetual warfare with each other. The tradition was also handed down from their forefathers, that in ancient times there lived here a race of men and women who were of immense stature with heavy bones, and were a very bad and evil-disposed people, whom they had for the greater part exterminated by continual war, and the few that were left gradually died away. (Taken from Discovery and Conquest of Mexico and New Spain, Bernal Diaz de Castillo, p. 185). In order to give us a notion of the huge frame of this people, they dragged forth a bone, or rather a thigh bone, of one of those giants, which was very strong, and measured the length of a man of good stature. This bone was still entire from the knee to the hip joint. I measured it by my own person, and found it to be of my own length, although I am a man of considerable height. They showed us many similar pieces of bones, but they were all worm-eaten and decayed; we, however, did not doubt for an instant, that this country was once inhabited by giants. Cortes observed, that we ought to forward these bones to his majesty in Spain by the very first opportunity.” (Taken from Discovery and Conquest of Mexico and New Spain, Bernal Diaz de Castillo, p. 185). Giant stones found in Lebanon. Feats and Wisdom of the Ancients, Time Life p. 65 see also www. greatserpentmound.org/ articles/ giants3.html Ancient American, PO Box 370, Colfax, WS 54730, 715-962-3299, p. 4 Far Out Adventures the Best of World Explorer Magazine p. 16 Vol. 1 No. 3 800-259-6300 www.wexclub.com Found in Lovelock Cave, Nevada, 1911 It is in the Humbolt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada. 702-623-2912 20”eamts 12” 8 1/4” mandible Reader’s Digest’s Mysteries of the Unexplained p. 41 See also: Mankind in the Making by William Howells, Anthropology Dept. at Harvard thumb bones call Ron Wyatt for new picture 615-331-6263 Done 8-25-97 Photo by Ron Wyatt 931-486-0557 CUBIT CODO Thigh bone replica from a giant skeleton found in Egypt. Joe Taylor makes castings. P.O. 559, Crosbyton, TX 79322 806-675-7777 or 2421 Thigh bone replica from a giant skeleton found in Egypt. Joe Taylor makes castings. P.O. 559, Crosbyton, TX 79322 806-675-7777 or 2421 About 6.5” Photo by Ron Wyatt 931-486-0557 www.wyattmuseum.com Race of Giants Lived Here Skeletons of Mammoth Human Race Unearthed in the County. Found in Big Mound Near the outlet of Lake Noquebay, in NE Wisconsin, mounds were found containing hundreds of skeletons. “One skull found was about three times the size of the ordinary human and other bones were correspondingly big.” The Index Wausaukee, Wisconsin Friday October 14, 1904 Vol 11. No.9 (Mounds are a few feet under water now in the lake in front of Ahle’s Resort 1-715-854-2171) Había gigantes en la tierra en aquellos días, There were giants in the earth in those days; Génesis 6:4 Y dijo Dios: Hagamos al hombre a nuestra imagen, conforme a nuestra semejanza ... Y creó Dios al hombre a su imagen, a imagen de Dios lo creó; varón y hembra los creó. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness… So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Génesis 1:26 y 27 **** Chapter 17 textbook Is this showing Human evolution Grandpa? ¿Es éste tu abuelo? Holt Biology, 1991 p. 224 ¿Y qué sobre los cavernícolas? What about the “cave men?” Not only were the people bigger and living longer; the insects, reptiles, animals and fish, were bigger also. We will cover that in the next session. “The biggest pterosaur flying over the inland sea is Pteranodon. Like all reptiles, it grows throughout its life…” Holt Earth Science, 1991, p. 293 More about that on video #3. “Like all reptiles, it grows throughout its life…” Dinosaurs were big lizards that lived with Adam and Eve. © Dennis Lipp How will he view the world after 12 or 16 years in your school system? ¿Cómo mirará al mundo después de 12 ó 16 años en una escuela secular? ¿Creación? ¿Evolución? “75% de todos los niños criados en hogares cristianos que van a una escuela secular rechazarán la fe cristiana antes de su primer año de la universidad.” “75% of all children raised in Christian homes who attend public schools will reject the Christian faith by their first year of college.” Video-Let My Children Go Caryl Matritiano Author, Vice President Jeremiah films and international cult expert. 800-828-2290 www.jeremiahfilms.com More about that on video #4! ¡Más acerca de esto en video #4! Let’s summarize 1. 2. 3. 4. God made the world. He owns it. He makes the rules. We are all guilty of breaking God’s rules. Repasemos: 1. 2. 3. 4. Dios hizo la tierra. El es el due´no de ella. El hace las leyes. Cada uno de nosotros somos culpables de romper las leyes de Dios. 10 Commandments Ex. 20 1. No other God’s before me. 2. No graven images. 3. Don’t take God’s name in vain. 4. Remember the Sabbath. 5. Honor your father and mother 6. Thou shalt not kill. Los Diez Mandamientos 1. No tendrás dioses ajenos delante de mí. 2. No te harás imagen. 3. No tomarás el nombre de Jehová tu Dios en vano. 4. Acordarte has del día del reposo. 5. Honra á tu padre y á tu madre. 6. No matarás. 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. 7. No cometerás adulterio. 8. No hurtarás. (No robarás). 8. Thou shalt not steal. 9. No hablarás contra tu prójimo falso testimonio. 9. Thou shalt not bear false witness. 10. Thou shalt not covet. 10. No codiciarás. Dios es el que juzga al justo: Y Dios está airado todos los días contra el impío. God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. Salmos 7:11 Porque tú no eres un Dios que ame la maldad: El malo no habitará junto a ti. For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. Salmos 5:4 Summary: 1. God made the world. 2. He owns it. 3. He makes the rules. (like the 10 commandments) We are guilty of breaking His rules. 4. 5. We will be punished or We must find a substitute to take our place. Jesus is willing and able. Resumen: 1. Dios hizo la tierra. 2. El es dueño de ella. 3. El hace las reglas y leyes 4. Estamos culpables de romper sus reglas 5. Debemos ser castigados o Debemos encontrar un sustituto para tomar nuestro lugar. Jesús puede y quiere. If you died today, where would you go? Si mueres hoy, ¿dónde iría su alma? Estarás muerto por muuuuuucho tiempo. You will be dead for a loooooong time! Sólo lo que tienes es esta linea. 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